Klagelieder 5:7
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Unsere Väter, die gesündigt haben, sind nicht mehr; wir müssen ihre Schuld tragen.
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Our fathers have sinned, and are not - Nations, as such, cannot be punished in the other world; therefore national judgments are to be looked for only in this life. The punishment which the Jewish nation had been meriting for a series of years came now upon them, because they copied and increased the sins of their fathers, and the cup of their iniquity was full. Thus the children might be said to bear the sins of the fathers, that is, in temporal punishment, for in no other way does God visit these upon the children. See Eze 18:1, etc.
Quelle öffnen ↗(Jer 31:29). borne their iniquities--that is, the punishment of them. The accumulated sins of our fathers from age to age, as well as our own, are visited on us. They say this as a plea why God should pity them (compare Eze 18:2, &c.).
Quelle öffnen ↗Our fathers have sinned, and are not,.... In the world, as the Targum adds; they were in being, but not on earth; they were departed from hence, and gone into another world; and so were free from the miseries and calamities their children were attended with, and therefore more happy: and we have borne their iniquities; the punishment of them, or chastisement for them: this is not said by way of complaint, much less as charging God with injustice, in punishing them for their fathers' sins, or to excuse theirs; for they were ready to own that they had consented to them, and were guilty of the same; but to obtain mercy and pity at the hands of God.
Quelle öffnen ↗A Prayer to the Lord by the Church, Languishing in Misery, for the Restoration of Her Former State of Grace 1 Remember, O Jahveh, what hath happened to us; consider, and behold our reproach. 2 Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to foreigners. 3 We are orphans, without a father; our mothers are as widows. 4 Our own water we drink for money, our own wood cometh to us in return for payment. 5 On our necks are we persecuted; we are jaded, - there is no rest for us. 6 [Towards] Egypt we reach our hand, - [towards] Assyria, to satisfy ourselves [with] bread. 7 Our fathers sinned, they are not; we bear their iniquities. 8 Servants rule us; there is none to deliver us out of their hand. 9 At the risk of our life we bring in our bread, because of the sword of the wilderness. 10 Our skin gloweth with heat like a furnace, because of the fever-heat of hunger. 11 They have forced women in Zion, virgins in the cities of Judah. 12 Princes are hung up by their hand; the face of the elders is not honoured. 13 Young men carry millstones, and lads stagger under [loads of] wood. 14 Elders cease from the gate, young men from their instrumental music. 15 The joy of our heart hath ceased, our dancing has turned into mourning. 16 The crown of our head is fallen; woe unto us, that we have sinned! 17 Because of this our heart became sick; because of these [things] our eyes became dark. 18 Upon Mount Zion, which is laid waste, jackals roam through it. 19 Thou, O Jahveh, dost sit [enthroned] for ever; They throne is for generation and generation. 20 Why dost thou forget us for ever, - forsake us for a length of days? 21 Lead us back, O Jahveh, to thyself, that we may return; renew our days, as of old. 22 Or, hast Thou indeed utterly rejected us? art thou very wroth against us? This…
Quelle öffnen ↗This chapter, though it has the same number of verses with the 1st, 2nd, and 4th, is not alphabetical, as they were, but the scope of it is the same with that of all the foregoing elegies. We have in it, I. A representation of the present calamitous state of God's people in their captivity (v. 1-16). II. A protestation of their concern for God's sanctuary, as that which lay nearer their heart than any secular interest of their own (Lam 5:17, Lam 5:18). III. A humble supplication to God and expostulation with him, for the returns of mercy (Lam 5:19-22); for those that lament and do not pray sin in their lamentations. Some ancient versions call this chapter, "The Prayer of Jeremiah."
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In jenen Tagen wird man nicht mehr sagen: »Die Väter haben saure Trauben gegessen, und den Kindern sind die Zähne stumpf geworden«,
Und ihr habt die Bosheit eurer Väter übertroffen; denn siehe, ein jeder unter euch folgt dem Starrsinn seines bösen Herzens und ist mir nicht gehorsam.
Was braucht ihr da für ein Sprichwort im Lande Israel, welches also lautet: »Wenn die Väter saure Trauben essen, so bekommen die Kinder stumpfe Zähne!«
Wir erkennen, o HERR, unsere Bosheit und die Sünde unsrer Väter, daß wir wider dich gesündigt haben.
Bete sie nicht an und diene ihnen nicht; denn ich, der HERR, dein Gott, bin ein eifriger Gott, der da heimsucht der Väter Missetat an den Kindern bis in das dritte und vierte Glied derer, die mich hassen,
Und ihr Vater Jakob sprach zu ihnen: Ihr habt mich meiner Kinder beraubt! Joseph ist nicht mehr, Simeon ist nicht mehr, und Benjamin wollt ihr nehmen; es geht alles über mich!
So spricht der HERR: Eine Stimme wird auf der Höhe vernommen, bitterliches Klagen und Weinen: Rahel beweint ihre Söhne und will sich nicht trösten lassen wegen ihrer Söhne; denn sie sind nicht mehr!
Warum vergibst du meine Übertretung nicht und erlässest mir nicht meine Schuld? Denn jetzt werde ich mich in den Staub legen, und wenn du mich morgen früh suchst, so bin ich nicht mehr!
das Auge, das mich schaut, wird mich nicht mehr sehen; wenn du nach mir siehst, so bin ich nicht mehr!
Wo sind nun eure Väter, und die Propheten, leben sie ewig?